PeoplePower Points: On K-12 model

What can you say about the implementation of the K+12 program, which adds two years to the basic education curriculum?

Rodolfo Talledo, Angeles City: If the government can financially sustain the program without adding too much burden on parents, it’s worth giving it a try.
Roger Valdez, Quezon City: Even if we added 10 years of elementary and high school schooling, if nothing is done to improve our textbooks and teachers, the quality of our graduates will not improve.

Deteriorating quality of education
Roger Caravana, Bulacan: The implementation of the K+ l2 program is a welcome move, considering how our educational system is deteriorating fast.
Janet Lopez, Manila: In the last 35 years, our education in both private and public institutions, has deteriorated. Graduates with four years of college can barely put two English sentences together.

What about the quality of teachers?
Jun Montebon, Parañaque City: The problem is, do we have enough adequately trained teachers for its implementation? Otherwise, it will be just a waste of resources.
Thea Sophia, Manila: Are they nuts, sinong magtuturo? Waste of time and resources.
Tony Gomez, Parañaque City: It just adds costs, time and money, unless the quality of the teachers is upgraded.
A waste
Rex Earlou Calmerin, Iligan City: It’s a waste of time and money. We don’t need two more years of basic education, as children these days are mostly mature. 

An added burden
Diony Yap, Bacolod City: This will be another two years na dagdag-pahirap sa mga magulang na gumagapang sa kahirapan sa pagpapaaral ng kanilang mga anak. Dapat busisiin ang panukalang ito sa Senado.
C.B. Manalastas, Manila: The K+12 program won’t make any difference or help improve the quality of education of young kids, but instead will just be an added burden to parents, what with the rising cost of education, apart from creating classroom problems for our cash-strapped government.
Pitts Hizon, Pampanga: Nowadays, most of the students are the happy-go-lucky types who do not regard education as their priority. They’d rather bum around in malls or stay glued to computers. As a result, most graduates are half-baked, who can’t even write or speak good English, unlike the students of yesteryears. According to my late mom, Grade 6 pupils then could already teach. An additional two years to the basic education curriculum could spell two more years of burden to poor parents who could hardly send their children to school.
Ishmael Calata, Parañaque City: The additional years in schooling of children is going to be burdensome for the family, even if it is part of the free education in our country. There are many expenses that the family will have to bear, like the allowance and baon, plus transportation fare of pupils and students, if the family is far from school. Why don’t our leaders come up with something better, such as the construction of more school buildings, more classrooms, better facilities, better books and well-trained teachers?
Pedro Alagano Sr., Vigan City: It’s going to be an additional burden to poor parents. Better invest on upgrading the skills of mentors, good facilities and equipment, coupled with decent pay and allowances to make a difference.
Deo Durante, Camarines Sur: The K+12 implementation is not the solution to poverty nor an answer to improve the quantity of students that desire to complete education at the secondary level, but rather will result in burdening the shoulders of parents with the price of education. Despite being free, sending a child to school really entails a big amount of expenses still.
June Deoferio, Cavite: The K+12 program adds another burden years to the parents, especially those who are on the poverty line. There’s also a lack of teachers.

Fight corruption first
Ric Vergara, Calamba: K+12 program won’t solve corruption in the Department of Education. Let’s fight corruption first before anything else.

Job readiness
Noel Alquiza, Metro Manila: I think, it’s an opportune time to implement the program this year. Under this program, our students will graduate at 18 years old and become more knowledgeable, equipped and responsible to choose their prepared career compared to a 16-year-old, who is still prone to shift from one course to another course because of their young age.
Bob Morales, Oroquieta City: I am in favor of the K+12 program simply because, with it, our graduates will become eligible for work.
Renato Taylan, Ilocos Norte: It is an ideal program, which arms high school graduates with livelihood skills needed to make them productive members of the community.

A big advantage
Miguelito Herrera, Cabanatuan City: It will definitely be a big advantage to upcoming students to learn more.
Robert Young Jr., San Juan: Detractors of K+12 should compare graduates from public to private schools. Even among private schools themselves, they will find considerable differences. Students who took six years of high school are better prepared for college, are more adept in math and the sciences, have better command of the English language, among others. It’s the best investment parents can give their children.

Lack of teachers, classrooms
Ferdinand Rafer, Cavite: Currently, we have a classroom backlog. Adding two more years would aggravate the problem, unless we have more mango trees to be utilized as classrooms.
Rey Saura, Manila: Kahit na dagdagan pa ng 10 years, bale wala rin, kasi our classrooms are not conducive to learning.
Edwin Castillo, Tanauan City: DepEd should solve first the lack of classrooms and teachers, particularly in all public schools nationwide, before implementing the K+12 program.
Rey Ibalan, Antipolo City: While the K+12 program is necessary to improve quality education, it is imperative that we build more classrooms and get good teachers.
Johann Lucas, Quezon City: I think it would be better if the government will provide our schools over the country with more teachers, books, classrooms, chairs, and all our needs before adding two years to the basic education curriculum. We are not yet ready for it. The salaries of teachers are also insufficient.
Angelito Bautista Jr., Navotas: It’s unlikely for now, what with not enough books, classrooms, teachers, facilities, etc. Are you really thinking that this K+12 will help our students without the much-needed materials and tools for learning? I just can’t understand the logic.
Ignacio Anacta, Metro Manila: Prolonging our basic educational curriculum by another two years will not necessarily produce quality graduates. Instead, we need to improve the quality of teachers, with respectable salaries, effective teaching aids, classrooms conducive to learning, updated libraries, regular students’ evaluation and rating.
Germi Sison, Cabanatuan City: Better put up more classrooms to accommodate the growing student population, provide facilities conducive to teaching and learning, with equipment and reliable textbooks to enhance competitive education, and continue the training of public school teachers to equip them for the challenges, before adding two more years to the BEC, which will count as more expenses to the government and to the parents.
Anti-poor
Carmela Ramento, Cagayan de Oro City: This K+12 program is anti-poor. It pushes poor people to the wall to produce money for the additional two years of expenses.
Nescel Panes, Passi City, Iloilo: Curricular innovations are part of educational reform. However, the problem is whether the implementation of the K+12 program will work out and will generate productive results. Considering millions of families that are starving for food and fighting for their survival every day, this will be a burden on their shoulders. In return, children’s education is hampered and sacrificed.
Dennis Montealto, Mandaluyong City: Anything that could further enhance the education and hone our young to face the future should be a welcome move. But education officials should also consider the economic toll this program might impose on low-income families. What is more beneficial in the long run is what really matters.
Elmo Cruz, Manila: Two more years in the basic education curriculum will make it harder for the children of the poor to pursue their education, due to financial and time constraints. Even 10 years’ BEC will suffice to improve our educational output if qualified teachers are employed, with sufficient facilities, reliable textbooks, equipment (like computers), and hard-up children are supported with proper nutrition.

Raise educational standards instead
Felix Ramento, USA: The claim of K+12 advocates that graduates of the program would be ready for employment is not entirely advantageous to our well-being as a people. The better alternative for our social well-being is to raise our educational standards and look into the prohibitively high cost of education that is diminishing school attendance, instead of pursuing a program that would only produce an army of workforce among the citizenry.
Elpidio Que, Vigan: That will certainly have a corrosive effect on the majority of parents, whose buying power is already on gradual erosion. Ferdinand Marcos did not go through such K+12 educational program, yet his “beautiful mind” is still second to none in our realm. I, myself, did not go through the same curriculum now being pushed by nothing-to-do minds, to the point of getting surprised how I got my college degree of BSBA in Manila, but I know one-plus-one and have passable English command. If implemented, it would boomerang. The solution is to provide good school facilities and good teachers, not the so many present ones with carabao English tongues who were “hired” by their patron politicians.

Builds character
Alanah Jean Bacerra, Bacolod City: If longer schooling does build character, then why not?
Lucas Banzon Madamba, Laguna: Adding two years to the basic education curriculum can further hone and produce a reinforced educational foundation, which can prepare the students for more meticulous and updated potentials for educational development. I would suggest implementing and establishing a practical training module or internship, which can be added to the basic education curriculum. This can develop the learning perspectives of Filipino nationals, which can broaden, widen and expand their outlook and viewpoints.
Long delayed
Sonny Macapugay, Manila: Its implementation is long-delayed. Sana noon pa, di ba?

Existing problems
Rodrigo Calangan, Metro Manila: This is inappropriate. They should know that the majority of classrooms today have limited books, crowded students, incompetent teachers, and wrecked rooms. Prioritization is the essence. Why would they add additional years? They should instead improve the education system and its delivery!
Alexander Raquepo, Ilocos Sur: I think the better solution could have been the provision of better facilities, equipment, reading materials, IT gadgets, more training for teachers, decent school buildings, among many others. This is more doable and realistic than the additional two years.

Money-making
J.R. Mondonedo Jr., Parañaque City: It’s all very simple. First, it entails additional expenses for parents, with no guarantee of producing quality graduates. The problem with this country is when things are fine as they are, we come up with something to make life harder. The sad part about this is that the main intent is just to make money. Another example is when they start digging a road to cement it again, even though it does not need repair.
Who will foot the bill?
Jose Fabello Jr., Cagayan de Oro City: Upgrading plans are good only when the government and the parents are prepared to foot the bill for the required logistics. Otherwise, it’s bound to fail.
Louella Brown, Baguio City: I am for the K+12 program. But its implementation is far-fetched. There seems to be no adequate funds for it.
Jim Veneracion, Naga City: Will the Philippines have the resources to implement this program when the DepEd is always short of funds? Actually, the present system was successful in my time.

How do we go about it?
Claurence Somoso, Quezon City: It’s a good idea. Let’s face it. Times are changing and changes must happen in our educational system. But the big question is, how are we going to implement it? Where do we get the funds, the manpower that will perform the changes, technical aspects and so on?

Take it from personal experience
Desuel Pardo, Mandaluyong City: Kaming nagsimulang mag-aral matapos ang World War II ay nagkaroon lamang ng 10 taong pag-aaral ng pangunahing aralin. Karaniwan sa amin ay nagsipagtagumpay sa aming piniling larangan ng buhay. Ang mga di nagtagumpay ay ‘di talaga magtatagumpay sa pag-aaral, kahit na dagdagan pa ng dalawang taon, sapagkat ang kanilang kakayahan sa pag-aaral ay para lamang sa mga maigsing pag-aaral na pang-hanapbuhay.

At par with world standards
Mark Kevin Santos, Nueva Ecija: K+12 is one way of improving the quality of education in our country, especially now that we have an outdated curriculum compared to other successful countries.
Dr. Jose Balcanao, Benguet: Only the rich will benefit from it since poor families cannot really afford to have more financial burden and thus it would only end up in a greater percentage of dropouts. Bright students would become bored and indolent. However, it is good for our country so that our educational standard will be at par with our Asian neighbors and we can easily meet their demands.

Sa mga magulang na pumapasok

     Sa mga magulang na pumapasok sa public schools ang mga anak: papayag ba kayo na ang mga anak nyo eh magtagal pa ng dalawang taon sa eskwelahang bulok ang mga kagamitan, kulang sa pasilidad, tadtad ng mali ang mga librong pinapagamit at masusungit ang mga gurong nagtuturo dahil kulang ang sweldo?

Put your money where your education is.

     The five points that were listed in this article seemed to have valid grounds. Simply adding two more years in the education of a child does not guaranty the child will have skills that are at par or superior than the other students from other countries.
   A few days ago, I saw the list of rankings of countries when it comes to their quality of education. Number one on the list is Finland and second is Japan. Why do these countries excel? According to the report, both countries hire teachers from the top 10% of their graduates. In South Korea, math teachers come from the top 5% of the senior graduating class. The other countries like the U.S. hire from the bottom 10% of their graduates to teach students.
     The U.S. department of education recognized this problem and this is probably the reason why there was a hiring surge of experienced teachers from Asia to teach in U.S. public school that are located in cities with low performing schools.
     Why can’t the Philippine board of education try to invest on hiring top notch teachers instead of immediately adding two years in high school? Once the quality of education has been uplifted by these top notch teachers to acceptable levels then the government can slowly add more years to the education program.
     We have entered an age where the 10-year education program is becoming outdated. As a nation that is hoping to stand as a noticeable competitor in the global market, we need to furnish our graduates with a quality of education that will bring respect to our country. We need to recognize and embrace the changes that need to be made in the educational program of the Philippines. It is true that it will be a financial burden to everybody. But the benefits of these changes will be very evident on the quality of graduates that the Philippine schools would be introducing to the world job market.
      I do not know if Ateneo De Manila University still has a program called Jesuit Volunteers. These individuals are new graduates of Ateneo and they are hired to teach high school and college subjects for two year in different Ateneo schools in the Philippines. Having these top notched teachers in classrooms proved to be a good investment because they brought up the quality of education in other Ateneos.
     Put your money where your education is.

Sumasang-ayon ako sa

     Sumasang-ayon ako sa sentimyento ng mga magulang, mga mag-aaral at ng mga taong hindi sang-ayon sa planong pagdadagdag ng 2 taon sa basic education sa ating bansa.
      My wife, who is a teacher for 11 years, asked my stand on this issue and I simply answered with a three-worded phrase “Quality over quantity”.
      Sa totoo lang hindi solusyon ang 2 taon na idagdag para maiangat ang kalidad ng edukasyon sa Pilipinas. Kung nagagamit lamang ng tama ang oras at iba pang resources sa pagtuturo at may mga tamang materyales at mainam na pasilidad maaring mas gumanda ang edukasyon sa atin.
      · Additional two years would mean extra expense for parents of public school goers, a majority of whom belong to impoverished sectors.
Sa kasalukuyan ngang sistema, madami nang hindi nakakapagtapos kahit high school lang. Meron ngang iba na hindi talaga nakaranas ng “formal schooling”.
      · It is the government which would be 'throwing money into the problem'.
Mali ang pupuntahan ng pera ng taong bayan. I agree with focus’s comment on diverting the funds instead, to improve the competence of teachers, administrators, councelors, and to improve facilities and books for public schools
On vwblahblah’s comment:
      “We have entered an age where the 10-year education program is becoming outdated. As a nation that is hoping to stand as a noticeable competitor in the global market, we need to furnish our graduates with a quality of education that will bring respect to our country. We need to recognize and embrace the changes that need to be made in the educational program of the Philippines. It is true that it will be a financial burden to everybody. But the benefits of these changes will be very evident on the quality of graduates that the Philippine schools would be introducing to the world job market”
     I beg to disagree, hindi yung 10-year education program ang outdated kundi yung mga gamit at mga paraan ng pagtuturo. Kahit sa kasaluluyan namang sistema, pwede pa din natin sabihin that we are globally competitive. Kaya nga maraming skilled OFW’s at mga professionals abroad. My point is hindi naman talaga issue sa ibang bansa kung 10-year lang basic education mo.
     Finally, kung maibabalik sana yung quality of education nung mga unang panahon, hindi na kailangan ang dagdag na taon. Ayon kasi sa kwento ng mga lolo at lola ko, kahit Grade 7 lang nun pwede ka na magturo.

12 years of basic education

     Adding 1 year to primary/elemenatry education then adding another year to secondary education is a waste. First and foremost, our basic education first must be improved. Retain 6 years of primary/elementary education, retain 4 years of secondary education. Then add optional years 11 & 12 as preparation for tertiary education (university or technical college). Qualification to take up years 11 and 12, will be based on the student's results on their performance in years 9 and 10 (or 3rd and 4th year high school). Qualification to take up tertiary education will be based on the student's results in years 11 and 12. This is how the education system works in other countries, according to what I have read.

ano?

     Santisimong DEPED di na kailanagan ng karagdagang dalawang taong parusa sa mga magaaral at mga magulang na kuba na! at dugo na ang lumalabas at din a pawis sa kaka kayod mapag aral lang ang kanilang mga sutil na anak! Ginagaya kasi ni kalihim sa satanisata! este lasalista at mga atinista na pitong taong ang elementarya! Hehehe dapat dito binabatukan ng matauhan! Hehehe!
      Ang kailanagan ng mga mag aaral ay mga karagdagang silid aralan maayos na pasilidad, dagdag na mga eskelahan at gusali! Pg tutuok at paglalagay ng mga ( ano ba sa tagalong ng computer? Bobo ka karuwa! ) un nga computer! Pagsasanay ng mga guro para dagdag kaalaman sa pag tuturo! Itaas ang antas ng kalidad ng pag tuturo tulad sa atoing mga karatig bansa sa asya at America o ibang planeta! Hehehe! Kamote!
      Higit sa lahat pigilan ang kurap ( din g mata! ) o kurapsyon sa DEPED ibigay ang nararapat sa mga guro at namamahala! Malaking bagay dito ang local na pamahalaan dahil kaya nilang mag tustus ng mga bagong gusali at libreng gamit sa eskwelahan! Tulad ng papel, lapis, bag at uniporme! Pag tiisan na lamang ng mga magaaral ang mga naka imprentang mukha ng mga pulitko sa kwaderno at iba pang gamit hehehe!Punyetang mga pulitko talaga sarap itaga!
      At sa DEPED sarap pag sasampalin ng kaliwat kanan ng matauhan! Di dapat yang dadag na dalawang taon ang inyong pinagtutuunan hehehe! Dapat yung kalidad ng edukasyon sa pilipinas na minamalas! Dahil sa walang habas sa pag waldas sa pera ng taong bayan! Kaya yan kung kakayanin di yungpuro gulpi de gulat lang at puro umpisa hehehe diba NONOY kamote ! puro pa pogi lang sa kamera at puro alagad lang ang nag sasalita at nag mamando hehehe kumaway ka naman!

The 12-year STUPID Proposal

     DepEd is not able to justify the addition of 2 years to the existing 10 years to
1. match the curriculum of other countries.
2. employ young people.
     If ALL students will at some point in their education have to transfer to other counties to continue to study then the cirriculum should be matched. But how many are transferring to other countries? Maybe less than 0.01%. So why must the other 99.99% mostly poor Filipinos spend their time and money for the extra 2 years?
     Most of the degrees in the Philippines are accreditted in the US and other countries. My degree is in IT. Many of my friends' degrees are mostly in the field of nursing, teaching, electronics and we're working in first world counties. Our 10-year curriculum was never an issue.
     If some people want extra skill and knowledge, then DepEd should simply provide them as a FREE-OF-CHARGE OPTION? Whatever it maybe, science and technology, maths, music and arts, agriculture and fisheries, sports, business, and entrepreneurship, among others. What's wrong with that? It's what is called VOCATIONAL COURSE! It can be credited as extra High School years for those who will want to continue to study abroad.
     Instead of spending all the billions of pesos to force extra 2-years on those who don't want it, DepED should spend a fraction of the money to build good Vocational Courses for those who need it. The rest of the money should be used to improve the competence of teachers, administrators, councelors, and to improve facilities and books for public schools.
     If DepEd does not fix the true problems of our publics schools, taxpayers money will just be used to put 2 years of extra junk in childrens brain. The youth will also lose 2 productive years.
So who will mostly benefit from a mandatory additional 2 years? Not the students and not the teachers. It's the Private Schools. Luistro comes from one of the most elite of them and it is charging very high tuition fees.
     To me, it's un-Christian.

2 MORE YEARS OF SCHOOL A WASTE

     Since I went to school in 1950, we never had 2 extra years. 2 more years of school are added expenses to families who hardly have food on the table. The DEPED should reconsider this wasteful idea. Some schools' classrooms are overcrowded already. Some schools even lack enough classrooms. Instead, the DEPED should focus on improving these facilities and the quality of teachers.

meet the standard

    if at the completion of their studies, students want to go and work overseas in well developed countries, they may be asked to do extra studies to catch up, if their studies here in the philippines are found to be below the required standard.
   better do more studies now while students are still young, able and eager, not when they're older and not up to it.
     quality not quantity, but to meet the quality, you must put in the quantity.

k+12=better education?

‎     12-year system: ~13320 total hours (8:00AM - 2:30PM w/ 1 hr lunch/recess)
    10-year system: ~16000 total hours (7:00AM - 4:30PM w/ 1.5 hr lunch/recess)
     Time is NOT the issue. What we do with the time and how well we do it to meet "internationa...l" standards is what we should focus on. Unless we want to adapt the 12-year system (take note 8AM to 2:30PM) which implies more changes like if both parents work, 8AM is too late for them to be going to work if they have to drop of kids or 2:30 is too early and kids need "after-school" like in the US or have nothing to do at home without parental supervision.







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